Imperfectly Perfect
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In today's episode, I’m talking about a subject that comes up all the time, and that is 'Perfectionism'. I want to share with you some insights into me and my world, and how I manage being a perfectionist as a small business owner.
I look at:
how we can embrace different ways of thinking to really help us to be brave, to do the scary things.
how it's okay to be rubbish at something because it means that we're getting started, and we're going to improve.
who decides what perfect is? Who decides what the standard is? Or what's good enough?
how I think it all comes down to perspective because we all see things differently.
how imperfection makes us a lot more relatable. It allows us to resonate and allows people to connect with us when we can show that we're not so shiny and perfect.
how embracing being imperfect allows us to create that room for growth
and I share more about the Japanese phrase Wabi Sabi’ , meaning “to celebrate imperfection”.
Here are the highlights from this episode:
(00.00) Introduction
(01.54) I’m the world’s biggest perfectionist.
(03:49) The fear of not meeting other people’s expectations.
(08:46) The hardest part of writing a book was putting it out there for sale.
(11:26) It’s ok to be rubbish at something.
(15:23) How do you know when you’ve done enough? Is that good enough?
(17:51) If we want to attract and work with our kind of people, then if we’re making everything look really shiny and rosy.
(20:01) Embracing imperfection allows us to grow.
(25:56) Being the real you is the key.
(28.17) When you have done the thing, you get the reward.
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I'm Lucy Rennie, and welcome to my Future Proof your Business Podcast.
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Hi, and welcome to this week's episode of the Future-Proof your Business podcast. I'm Lucy Rennie and today I wanted to talk to you about a topic that keeps coming up for me, but also, it's one that I've been having lots of conversations about with a lot of my clients, whether that's in my Mastermind, whether it's in the Future-Proof Club, or whether it's just one to one, mentoring schemes.
It's something that comes up all the time. And this is about perfectionism.
And I want to share with you a little bit of sort of insight into me and my world, and how I manage being a perfectionist as a small business owner, but also just talk to you in general about what I think about the topic and how we can kind of embrace different ways of thinking to really help us as business owners to be brave to do the scary things and ultimately to grow, to learn and to future-proof our business.
So I'm going to start really with just sharing a little bit about me. And the fact that I am, I think the world's biggest perfectionist, it's something that I've always had, always been since I can remember where I've just got, I don't know how to explain it, but I've just got the highest sort of, I just have a way of thinking about the, you know, the highest standards possible. So whenever I do something, it means that I have to do it in such a way that it meets those standards. And if I'm really honest, it very rarely does, because those standards are so high. And it's funny because I have them everywhere. So wherever I look, in whatever it is, whether it's at home, at work with clients, running, with food, cooking, going out, whatever it might be, I've just got this way of looking at something that I think it has to be, you know, in such a way.
And I think the only thing where I don't, where I'm rubbish, at the end really I don't really mind about it, I think is being kind to myself and giving myself permission to not meet those standards. And that's something that I'm learning about. So what I'm trying to say is, I understand completely what it means to be a perfectionist.
And for a long time, I actually thought it was a positive and I'd turn it around in business interviews, those kinds of things to say, you know, I'm a perfectionist as a strength. And so that means that I'm going to always make sure that I'm doing things right and perfectly and to the best of my ability. But actually, I think now looking back and being the grand old age of 44, when you think of these things, I actually think it's a large handicap, being a perfectionist. Especially when you're running your own business. And I think actually what happens is, it can stop you from doing certain things, because you've got that fear of putting something out there, you've got that fear of what people will think, you've got that fear of not being good enough. You've got that fear of not meeting even your own expectations, or let alone other people's expectations. So it stops you from doing things. But it stops you from finishing things as well. So very often, because I love doing things, whatever that might be, whether it's a qualification, whether it's a piece of art, whether it's about, it could be just an article, whatever it might be, sometimes I'll actually do the thing, but I won't actually then maybe finish it completely or put it out there because there's something that's holding me back, that's thinking, ah, yeah, if I put it out there, then people are going to it or people are going to see that I'm not good enough. So it's something that I've always fought with. And it's something that this year I've really tried to acknowledge and embrace and to work with, to get over it. I don't think you can actually get over it, but actually how to manage it and deal with it and embrace it. And the way is actually to work around it. And what I mean by that is, because I've been working with so many different amazing business owners, and I can see how amazing they are. And that actually, the only thing really stopping them is themselves. And that fear factor, or that kind of shyness, or that, yeah, that perfectionism, it's really made me stop and look inside and kind of notice how I'm doing things. And so with that in mind, because I'm first of all, encouraging other people to be brave, or to do the things, I've also got to make sure that I'm doing it because I can't expect other people to do it, if I'm not going to do it myself.
And so, this year has been a massive year for me, of doing the things, of putting myself out of my comfort zone, and really kind of following through.
And I suppose really embracing being imperfectly perfect.
So to give you a couple of examples, obviously, there's this new podcast that's been going now since sort of October time, September, October, which if you've listened to the first few episodes, and you know, and I know, Craig, who's my producer behind the scenes will vouch for me when I say, the first few episodes were really tricky. I was so nervous, and I kept fumbling my words or retaking or starting again, or, you know, there's some times where I've even sort of stopped, burst into tears, and kind of, we've had to come back to it because I was fighting that fear of it not being perfect. And actually, I think one of the things that I have embraced now and what I want to get over with this podcast in particular, and the feedback that I've had is actually that it is me and it's real, and I don't want it to be a shiny, kind of perfect thing. I want it to be something where viewers or listeners or business owners can relate to and connect with. To encourage you, and inspire you to be imperfect, I suppose, and to do the things. And I'm going to talk about this. But you know, hopefully you can hear, if you have listened from the beginning that we are, you know, I am getting better at this and slowly kind of finding my voice and my way of doing it and sort of it's becoming more comfortable. In fact, I've just actually asked Craig, today, if I can think about changing the intro a little bit that I recorded originally back in the summer, just because I think I'm feeling my way a bit more. And I think that's one of the things that, you know, I want to talk about, and we will talk about is, how it's all about learning and giving yourself permission to be crap at something. Because you know, if we've never done it before, we're going to be aren't we? So that's really what this episode is going to be about. And I think this is some of the things like I was saying about talking with some of my clients about it, you know, people, even just yesterday, I had three messages from different people, one who'd just done a Facebook Live, one had created some banners for an exhibition, and one was about to go and deliver a new workshop to some corporate clients, and all three of them were getting in touch to say, “Oh, my goodness, I'm not sure I've done the right thing. What do you think? Should I delete it? Should I delete the live because I think I'm rambling and I'm sniffing too much, or I'm talking around in circles or the other one was kind of who am I to go and stand in front of this room of professionals and deliver this masterclass”, etc. And when I went to check out all the things they were doing and had a chat with them. Honestly, I was gobsmacked at just how good they were. And it really kind of got me thinking I need to come on here and talk to you guys about it as well. Because I think it's all a lot of it is, it's all our mindset, it's the fact that we're putting ourselves out of our comfort zone that makes us feel kind of nervous. But also I think, for me, it's about the fact that we care as well. And I think we can turn it around and reframe it and think well, you know, actually, it's a bit like being nervous, isn't it? If if we are nervous, or if we are sort of questioning things, I also think it's because we actually care and we want to do a good job and we want to offer value and we want to deliver for our audiences or for our clients or our family or wherever we might be, our colleagues, etc. So really what I'm trying to say is, I want us all to embrace being imperfectly Perfect, yeah. putting ourselves out there and doing the thing that we either want to do or we know we need to do, but maybe we're not doing because of all those different reasons and we'll all have different reasons that are stopping us and holding us back, but I just wanted to walk through a few today. And one of the examples, I suppose, as well, I've talked about my podcast is my book that I published this year as well on the fifth of October.
And it's interesting. So I had a meeting last night, and I was talking to some people who'd read the book, and they wanted to have a chat with me and feedback and just kind of meet me, I suppose, which was interesting and scary in itself. But it was really, really, really lovely to get that feedback and to see people that actually, you know, enjoyed the book. And they were getting value from it. And they were quoting things from it. And, you know, it was actually really emotional. And one of them had asked me to describe a little bit the process behind the scenes, and I've done a podcast on the process, I talk a little bit about this as well in there. So go and check that out, I'll put the link in the show notes. But for me, the biggest thing wasn't actually writing the book, the biggest thing was actually clicking publish on the link so people could actually buy it. And that was the biggest thing. It wasn't actually sitting and writing the book, I actually really enjoyed that part. And yeah, it was difficult. And I'm not, you know, it really took everything out of me. But actually, the hardest part of writing a book was putting it out there for sale, so that people can actually read it. And it was like baring my soul, and what were they going to think? And gosh, all those things that came up, so yeah, so I wanted to talk about that today. And I think we talked about it, I just said it before about giving ourselves permission to be crap and get better at something. And it goes back to thinking about, you know, imagine if, when we see a child, a small baby who's starting to kind of get up on their feet, and they're a bit wobbly, and they keep falling down, or they start to sort of take that one step or two steps, then you know, they might let go of the sofa, or wherever they're holding on and start to take those steps, but then they fall down. Imagine if we said, “Oh, my goodness, how rubbish you are. Don't do that. Again, that's you know, that's dreadful. Don't try walking and gosh you were rubbish at it”.
Imagine if we did that, you know, imagine what would have happened, none of us would be walking, we'd all be sort of still crawling around.
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Our customers got funny vision and people crawling around on the floor now. But
Lucy Rennie 12:18
if we think of it, in that sense, it brings it all back home, that's part of our journey, isn't it? it's part of getting good at something. We've got to start off being rubbish at it, whether that's learning to walk, whether it's even learning to eat, we don't, we can't suddenly go in and eat in the way that we do as we're adults or learning a musical instrument. Ellia at the moment is learning the trumpet, and it's dreadful. And you can imagine, but she's gradually getting better and better and better at it. The same with sports. Football it's the World Cup, isn't it at the moment, they didn't start off being, you know, Ronaldo didn't start off suddenly, or being able to, I'm sure he did a little bit because he's very talented. But he didn't start off, being able to run, walk and kick the ball and do all those things, he had to work really hard at it. And he'll still be working hard at it today and training to make sure that he is at the right level to be able to go and score the goals that he needs to do for Portugal. And so, yeah, I think my first thing is about let's embrace the fact that it's okay to be rubbish at something, because it means that we're getting started, and we're going to improve. Secondly, I think it's really interesting. And I was talking about this as well, earlier on, but who decides what perfect is? Who decides actually what the standard is? Or what's good enough? Or who decides, you know, where we need to be with things. And I think that's all comes down to perspective. Because we all see things differently. And so, for one person, what's the perfect way, or the best way of doing something is going to be the wrong way for somebody else. And it's the same in terms of how we view things, whether that's the perfect body shape, or the best, whether you prefer the perfect, you know, place to live, is it by the sea? Is it in the country? Is it, you know, the perfect business? What does that look like the perfect practice? It's all completely relative, and depends on our own perspective and how we view things. So it's really, it really helps to think of it in that way. And actually, who's setting those standards? And I know for me, I'm, as I said, I'm the world's worst self critic, and just understanding and recognising the fact that it's me myself who’s putting those standards out there kiind of helps to take the pressure off a little bit and give myself permission to go actually, you know what, maybe it isn't about being 100% Perfect, but just good enough or better than yesterday. And obviously there's a disclaimer for certain things where obviously we have to do certain things in a certain way. If you're in I don't know the specific profession where you've got to follow certain ways of doing things that's completely different. But what I'm talking about here is about, especially as small business owners, I think we've got the tendency to kind of put the bar so high, that it's really tricky sometimes to get there, we put this pressure on ourselves to reach certain goals or to grow in a certain way, or to do certain things that actually, if we just stop a minute and ask ourselves, well, okay, who's actually put that there? And is that really where I need to be? Or actually can kind of bring that down a bit? And actually, would that be okay, is that good enough is that, you know, a kinder way of doing things in a more realistic way, then I think that really helps as well. That's one of the things that I do with a lot of my clients is when we're looking at where they want to be this time next year, or when they're kind of going into a new challenge, or a launch or something, that project that they're doing, we look at where they want to be in terms of either good, better or best, so that they can, they can have that those different scales of where they want to be. Because I think there's definitely something about stretching ourselves. But there's also something about giving ourselves permission to go Yeah, that's okay, I've done enough, it’s good enough. Okay.
With all that in mind, I think there's something as well about, especially as a business owner, and especially if we're kind of working and doing our thing, and wanting to kind of communicate who we are and why we do what we do in order to promote, market and sell our products and services, then I think one of the main things that can really, really make a difference and is linked really to this whole idea of being a perfectionist is where we can really think about being ourselves. And really say it, kind of allowing ourselves to be real, whether that's on camera, whether it's when we're writing a book, whether it's when we're in front of our clients, but it's about actually maybe taking that shiny, shiny, cover off, and allowing people to see a little bit more of our real selves.
And I think it's Dolly Parton I keep quoting this quote, well, I think it's Dolly Parton that says, you know, “find out who you are, and then do it on purpose”, there's something really powerful about being true to yourself and being the real you and letting people see who that is, rather than trying to be this persona, or this kind of shiny, shiny idea of something that actually maybe isn't actually attainable or isn't actually real. And the reason why I'm saying this is that, first of all, from our own perspective of trying to maintain that and be that shiny person is really hard work and takes so much time and effort, that it can be exhausting. And we're probably never really happy with what we're trying to be. But also from the outside looking in. If we want to attract and work with our kind of people, then if we're making everything look really shiny and rosy and polished, then maybe we're not really going to allow them to see who we really are and make them feel comfortable enough or maybe resonate with them enough for them to want to work with us. Because I know from my perspective, sometimes looking at, you know, certain people, I can think, oh, wow, they're so inspirational, they're so perfect, actually, you know, I don't necessarily want to reach out to them, because what would they think of me, or actually, I don't want to reach out because, you know, I'm not perfect in that way. So, I think it makes us a lot more relatable. And it allows us to resonate, and to really allow people to connect with us when we can maybe show that we're not so shiny and perfect. And that actually, you know, we have got flaws, and that we don't do everything right. And you know, sometimes it does go wrong. Or maybe we do mess up on our words, or we do ramble like I do on here. And I know I say I know a lot when I'm talking. But I think that's just who I am. And I think genuinely today I am embracing the fact that I want to show people that you don't have to be 100% Perfect.
And so going back to these messages I got yesterday, when I think about what people were worrying about, whether it was I think one person was saying she was outside walking in the fresh air, it's freezing cold. And her big thing was I'm sniffing when she was talking, so she was talking about these amazing, she's given this amazing advice and value and sharing these amazing stories. But because she was sniffing she had a bit of a runny nose because it was cold. That's what she was paranoid about enough to want to delete the video. And that for me kind of hit home and you know what, actually, I didn't even notice. You know, we don't even notice these things half the time because we're so engrossed in what we're listening to. And I think that's the thing where if we can really embrace the fact that we're real and things can go wrong. And I think it makes a massive difference.
And I think sometimes actually having imperfection really helps us to feel that sometimes we belong and that it's okay. And that actually, they must be real and a bit more down to earth and approachable. So it allows people to connect in a different way. There's a Japanese phrase, which I found as I was kind of researching for this episode, but there's a Japanese version you might have heard of, because I'd actually heard of it when I Read it, but it's called ‘Wabi Sabi’. And it actually means to celebrate imperfection.
How amazing is that? Yeah, and it's actually linked here.
I think I'm going to read a little bit of what it's related to. But I think there's a lady called Candice Kumai, who's got a book called Kintsugi Wellness: The Japanese Art of Nourishing Mind, Body, and Spirit,. And my pronunciation is rubbish, but Kintsugi wellness. And it's the Japanese art of nourishing the mind, body and spirit. And she talks about the fact that “wabi-sabi celebrates life's imperfections, its tough stretches, and even it's dark corners. And it reminds us that life is transient, imperfection is natural. And there's beauty to be found in simplicity.” I just think that's amazing. It just kind of sums it all up for us, doesn't it in the fact that actually imperfection and our flaws, and all those mistakes and failures and trials, all those things that we that go wrong in our life, and all the things that we learn from, actually make us who we are.
And it allows us to have a rich tapestry of, you know, ups and downs and highs and lows and failures, and all those things that allow us to be really unique, but give us our own experience and our own expertise. And in a way make us wise, because we've been there we've done it. And we've learned through doing that. And so I think that really sets the tone and kind of where I want to go with this episode. And what I want us to think about in terms of embracing being completely imperfect in all that we're doing, and I suppose really the science and the logic behind that as well.
If we think of evolution, and how, you know, to improve, to evolve to get to the next level, or to adapt, or even just sometimes maybe to learn to survive, if you think of the caveman, you know, he had to kind of meet that, I don't know what. the mammoth for the first time to think about how to, you know, you won't have known how to get away from it, or how to take over, you know, and, and win in front of the mammoth or the lion or whatever it might be without having done it the first few times. And I think that's the thing with being human, it's for me, it's all about being able to grow, to develop, to learn to try new things to improve, to do better. And so as small business owners, absolutely, you know, that's what we want to be doing, isn't it, if we're future-proofing our business, it's about taking what we've got, and doing it better. And so to be able to do it better, we've got to do it in a rubbish way in the first instance, we've got to try it, haven't we, because that's how we're going to improve.
So for me, embracing being imperfect allows us to create that room for growth, it allows us to, do you know why it allows us in a way to start the thing, to embrace the fact that we're not going to be good at it in the first instance, but just to have a go. So doing that first live or writing that first book, or going and meeting those clients for the first time, or doing a new sales proposition or putting a sales post out or whatever it might be just actually doing the thing and starting it, by embracing the fact that we know it's not going to be perfect allows us to actually just get over ourselves and do it. And then coming back to me and my book, it also I think helps us to finish the thing and put it out there. Knowing that yes, it's not going to be 100% Perfect, and actually good enough is okay. And embracing the fact that maybe we want to get feedback, maybe we want to learn from it, maybe we want to do that so we can move on to something better. And I know a lot of the big organisations that I work with, some real corporate, you know, multinational businesses, they're on a drive at the moment to integrate into their culture, the concept of failure, and being open to failure, and creating a culture that allows their employees to try something new to take a risk to do something maybe they've not done before. And by embracing failure, it means that it's okay to fail. It's okay for it to go wrong. And that allows them then first of all to go Do you know what I'm going to try it but secondly, they're going to learn from it. And so by creating that culture where you know that they're allowing their employees to think about new things to try out and to say, You know what, it's okay if it goes wrong, as long as we learn from it, and we move quickly and we're implement you know, the next thing is huge in terms of, of organisational growth and personal development and really can move in that organisation into being adaptable and flexible. And, you know, it comes back to the context we're living in where we need to be like that. But I think I love the idea of embracing failure. Because that's the way we learn best, isn't it by doing, seeing what's worked, seeing what it's not worked so well, and then tweaking it and moving it forward, I'm not going to try and actually say the quote, but that I will put it in the show notes. But there's a very famous quote, I think it's by Henry Ford, who says, you know, “what got you here won't get you there”.
And it's exactly the same thing to get us to the next level, we need to be starting to think and try new things. So if as small business owners, we're constantly doing the same thing over and over again, because it feels safe, and we don't want to take the risk, or we don't want to get it wrong, or we don't want to make a mistake, then our business is just going to go downhill, it's going to be to the detriment of everything, because we're not going to grow and keep up with the times or evolve o or stay relevant. So yeah, it's a huge thing. And of course, you know, going back to that, being real, and being who we are, and trying those new things really enables us to then really become that magnet for your kind of people. And I was having a conversation actually earlier today as well about sometimes actually being the real you, even though it can be really hard, is magic, because it allows people to really understand who they are, who you are to connect with you and to, to know to decide, first of all, whether they trust you and they know like and trust you enough to want to work with you. But sometimes it might mean that they don't like you or they don't want to work with you, or they don't like what you're doing. And that's just as important because we want to filter that out.
And we want to be making sure that we're attracting the right kind of people. So coming back to that idea of really kind of looking at yourself and thinking about who you are and niggles at all and, and finding your own voice, I think is the key. And we can only do that by trial and error by testing, by doing the thing. And I think there's something also about stopping the comparison or being aware and noticing the comparison of how we look at other people and what they're doing. Because I think that fuels our perfectionism because we think, you know, we mustn't be doing it as good as them, or maybe we were doing it in a different way. And maybe it's not good enough for all those things.
And I think sometimes if we can just maybe turn down that comparisonitis and really kind of stay in our own lane and really embrace who we are and finding our voice and doing our thing and trying, you know, really kind of honing in on what we want to we want to do, I think that's what becomes really powerful. And that then really feeds into the fact that as humans, I believe genuinely, that putting yourself out of your comfort zone and developing yourself and growing and trying new things, scary as hell as it is, actually allows you to feel alive. And there's nothing more rewarding than that feeling of having done the thing of that kind of nervousness, the anticipation, the scared impostor syndrome, all those things that come up as you're going to go and do the thing. But then actually that amazing kind of relief, I don't know what it is, that celebration, when actually you have done the thing and the satisfaction that you've, you know, you've put the work in, you've done the training, or you've tried the thing, you've been brave, you've been courageous, you've gone out and you've done it. And then when you get the reward, whether that's the fact that you've you know, you've gone from couch to 5k, or you've gone up and done a TED talk, or you've learned how to speak a language or you've written a book, whatever it might be, then the reward of that is either the feedback from people, it's the results you get, it's the fact that you grow your bit, whatever it might be, that's the amazing reward that you can then celebrate. And that makes it all, I believe, worthwhile. So just to kind of conclude on this today, I know I've been rambling a little bit, which I normally do, but I think it's something that I'm really passionate about. And I really, really, really want to encourage you to embrace being imperfectly perfect. It's about thinking about, you know, what is good enough for you, who's setting the standards, where do you really need to be and actually just noticing what you're doing with yourself in terms of, how you want to be and giving yourself permission and being kind to yourself to be rubbish at something and to improve at it to try and to get better slowly and surely, and you know, do the thing.
And I think that's where I'm coming from today in terms of, I'm forcing myself to lead by example, to be rubbish at a lot of things and put it out there, which you can all see. But I really want to show you know you guys listening, but also my clients, you know what I also want to show my kids that it's okay to not get it right all the time. But that actually, if you keep going, if you put the work in or you try or you just be brave and go and do it, you can have so much fun, you can meet so many new people, but you can also kind of get the rewards or the satisfaction or the results that you want, or get to where you want to be by showing up and doing the thing. So finally, the last thing I think is just about tapping into your, your joy as a small business owner, particularly, and thinking about why you're doing it, why you want to go on that live, or why you're writing the book and thinking about the tummy flips that you're going to have, when you get to the other side, and that you've done the thing and you've kind of, you've put yourself out there and you've impacted or you've helped or you've added value, or you've kind of supported or whatever it is that you're trying to do. The fact that by being brave and doing the thing, and embracing being imperfectly perfect allows you to make the difference that you want to make. And that really, for me is the ultimate thing about creating your own business and future-proofing your own business. It's about the impact that you can make, and about becoming that continuously improving business that gets better every day in different ways. And the only way we can do that is by trying new things, testing out new things, and being imperfect. So on that note, I'm going to leave that with you today, I would love to hear your experiences and how you find the idea of being a perfectionist. If you've struggled with that, what your biggest fear may be, is it about going live, is it putting yourself out there, is it talking in front of people, whatever it might be, I would love for you to get in touch and share with me. And maybe it's about making yourself accountable and telling me what that thing is that you really want to be able to do. And maybe we can check in with each other and see how you get on. But I just want to encourage you today to whatever it is, face the fear. That's the best way of getting over it, doing the thing and putting a smile on your face and enjoying it at the same time. And I promise you it won't be half as bad as you think it's going to be. And this time next year, you'll be looking back on yourself going I can't believe how scared I found that, I can't believe how frightened I was. Or I can't believe how worried I was about doing that thing. And now look at me because I've been doing it every day or every week since then. So there's my challenge, get in touch with me. And let me know what it is that you want to overcome. And I will help you to get the ball rolling and do the thing. With that I will leave you today. If you have enjoyed this episode, please do leave me a review or share with your friends because this is really what I want to be doing is reaching as many small business owners as possible to help them to future-proof the business and create something that really works for them and feels good. So have a fabulous week and I'll see you all next week.
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I would love to invite you to come and join me and lots of other small business owners like you in my FREE Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/CommunicatewithPurpose